In the latest Marie Claire Beauty Bytes special, I make it a Wimbledon special by sitting down with world class tennis star Venus Williams to chat pre-match rituals, cheat meals and the most useful beauty advice I think I’ve ever heard. Not only is she in London to appear in the world’s most famous tennis tournament, but she’s also here to shout about her active wear brand – EleVen by Venus – that’s just launched into Selfridges.
KT:HOW OFTEN DO YOU WORKOUT?
VW: Oh my God, I’ve been working out my whole life. My life is one great, big workout, but I think it’s the best life actually.
KT: YEAH I MEAN THAT’S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. MUCH MORE THAN ME. YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY A PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYER, BUT WHAT ARE THE OTHER WAYS THAT YOU LIKE TO EXERCISE – DO YOU EVER DO YOGA OR DIFFERENT CLASSES?
VW: Because of what I do, my training is very specific, but sometimes I do try to mix it up. I’ve done Bikram yoga, I love Pilates and I actually have a reformer in my house.
KT: OH THAT’S THE DREAM.
VW: Occasionally I’ll swim, but a lot of that is to with injury prevention, which is part of my tennis training.
KT: YEAH, OF COURSE.
VW: And then sometimes I do dance classes, which is cardio for me. I kind of do a bit of everything.
KT: AND IF YOU COULD CHOOSE ONE OUTFIT FROM YOUR LINE TO WORKOUT IN, WHAT WOULD IT BE?
VW: Oh definitely something from the Seamless collection. It’s so soft and buttery – it’s amazing and definitely my favourite collection. It’s extremely comfortable.
KT: AND WOULD IT BE LEGGINGS AND TOP OR A DRESS AND SHORTS?
VW: Leggings and top. There’s actually some Seamless on the stand here at Selfridges. I brought mine with me to London – I wasn’t sure what I should wear today, it was so funny – I was rushing out of the locker room at Wimbledon this morning and didn’t know what to put on.
VW: Wellness is not just body it’s mind and I think it’s just being at peace with yourself and your life. And a lot of that is to do with how you feel. So, moving your body is also wellness and hopefully being able to look how you want is wellness too. So it’s just not physical.
KT: SO IT’S ABOUT FEELING CONFIDENT TO BE WHO YOU ARE AND –
VW: Yes it’s about confidence, but also I think working hard helps you feel accomplished and confident. So if you aren’t feeling confident it doesn’t mean you can’t work to get there.
KT: DO YOU HAVE ANY PRE-MATCH RITUALS?
VW: No. I am not superstitious, I’m very much like ‘it’s all the hard work that got me here’ and not crossing my legs on every changeover or anything random like that.
KT: WHAT ABOUT PRE AND POST EXERCISE MEALS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALWAYS EAT RIGHT BEFORE WORKING OUT OR AFTERWARDS?
VW: I actually don’t eat a lot when I workout. This morning I had a green smoothie, so that’s like my food before the workout. And post – I love to have like to encourage recovery, so a lot of aminos and Vitamins. So I’ll do a protein powder or take supplements and all that stuff. I just want to be able to recover for the next days of, you know, hardcore training.
KT: HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR SKIN? CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH YOUR MORNING AND EVENING ROUTINES?
VW: Yes, I am obsessed with skin! I love skin products and I got myself into a routine now that’s quite simple. I just always exfoliate my face – even if it’s just with the towel or a brush, like those electric ones…
KT: LIKE CLARISONIC TYPE THING?
VW: Exactly! And then I use Vitamin C, like an antioxidant serum, during the day, and then some sort of Vitamin A at night. And that’s it – so super simple and it works for me.
KT: WHAT’S THE WORST BEAUTY TREND YOU’VE EVER ATTEMPTED?
VW: Oh Lord. I don’t know if I’ve ever tried anything crazy ‘cause usually you don’t leave the house if you look ridiculous. You have to be honest with yourself – if you look crazy it’s best to just keep it real.
KT: WHAT’S THE BEST BEAUTY PRODUCT RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU’VE EVER RECEIVED?
VW: I don’t know. An eye cream? Or maybe I recommend that for everyone, is an eye cream.
KT: HAS ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY RECOMMENDED ANYTHING? OR MAYBE A FACIALIST?
*One of her family interjects: ‘Weren’t you the one telling everyone to use NeoCurtis Eye Cream?’*
VW: Yeah, but I don’t know what the best suggestion that’s been given to me is though. Maybe I haven’t been giving any – I don’t have enough nice friends giving me suggestions! Well sometimes people give me suggestions and I’m like ‘that won’t work!’. Oh actually you know, probably best beauty product suggestion I’ve ever had is collagen powder. Yeah. I mean it’s not for the face, but you take it and I don’t know if it works but it makes me feel like you’re at least doing something!
KT: WHAT ABOUT THE BEST BEAUTY ADVICE?
VW: Best beauty advice is ‘update, don’t be late.’ My sister Lyn used to say that. You don’t wanna get caught up with the same hairstyle ten years later, or the same clothes… Like you have to update, don’t be late.
KT: I AM OBSESSED WITH THAT; I LOVE THAT PIECE OF ADVICE. WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE BOOK?
VW: I don’t have one, there’s too many. I am always onto the next one. What am I reading right now? I’m trying to read this book called Ready Player One by Ernest Cline.
KT: OH YEAH, I THINK THAT’S BEEN TURNED INTO A FILM.
VW: So haven’t quite gotten through it yet, but I love a new adventure.
KT: WHAT’S YOUR CHEAT MEAL?
VW: Doughnuts. I love doughnuts.
KT: GLAZED OR WITH JAM?
Venus: Just a plain glazed doughnut.
KT: WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE TV SHOW TO BINGE-WATCH?
VW: Oh my gosh. I can’t pick one! What do I watch a lot? I watch a lot of How I Met Your Mother. I’ve watched the whole thing way more than twice.
KT: YOU NEED TO FIND A NEW SHOW.
VW: Yeah, I definitely need something else.
KT: WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT TO STALK?
VW: Well if you’re stalking you don’t really want anyone to know right?! So, it’s best I don’t tell…But I do always look at Serena Williams’s account.
Our Derm knows his grooming products. Chaps, take note.
This week’s Beauty Bytes is a Father’s Day special. I chatted with the super friendly TV and radio host Dermot O’Leary, who has just released his third men’s fragrance for M&S. He was more clued up on grooming than any man I’ve ever met. I wish my boyfriend was like Derm…
DO: Congratulations on your engagement.
KT: OH THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DO: When are you getting married?
DO: Great month to get married in. I got married in September. Whereabouts?
KT: YES WE REALLY WANTED IT TO GET DARK IN THE EVENING TO CREATE ATMOSPHERE.
DO: You want dusk at a wedding. Congratulations.
KT: THANK YOU! WHAT IS THE WORST GROOMING TREND YOU’VE EVER ATTEMPTED?
DO: Oh, well I work very closely with a guy called Will, who has left M&S now sadly and I’m bereft. But he is like the Indiana Jones of men’s grooming. He will go travelling, like to some obscure Japanese mountain, and come back with lumps of charcoal. He once came back with this weird shaving product. I want my collection to be as authentic as possible, I’ve learnt from the ground up, I will readily admit that, but it has to be in my image. I don’t wet shave, so I don’t want to do shaving foam. So he found this weird beard powder that comes in a stick, and you rub it into your beard, then shave it off. I tried it, I put it on but it disappeared because half of it ended up in the sink, the other half was all over the cat. It was really thick and it kind of crumbled off. My bathroom was covered in the stuff; it’s like I had torn down a wall or something. It was an abject disaster.
KT: WHAT’S THE BEST GROOMING ADVICE YOU’VE EVER BEEN GIVEN?
KT: YES IT IS – I’VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MY BOYFRIEND TO ADOPT THIS RULE FOR AGES AND HE JUST WON’T.
DO: Why not?!
KT: I DON’T KNOW AND HE ALWAYS COMPLAINS ABOUT HIS SKIN!
Do: Then he should use a serum! We don’t actually do a serum, because serums are actually really expensive. But the Boots serum is like £20 and it’s really good.
KT: WHAT’S THE BEST GROOMING PRODUCT RECOMMENDATION YOU’VE EVER RECEIVED?
DO: Oh sea salt spray definitely. Wait hold on.
*Dermot runs and grabs his gym kit and wash bag. Spills it out onto the table and starts going through the products.*
DO: I love Mitchum deodorant. It’s the only deodorant that stops me sweating and doesn’t leave any marks on your clothes. This is the sea salt spray – Kevin Murphy Hair Resort Spray. I love it. I used to put wax in my hair. No way, man, not anymore. This is so good. This is a great serum too – Beauty Lab Skinfirming Daily Complexion Serum. I also really love my fragrances, they’re Eau de Toilettes, so really light, so I need carry them around with me so that I can reapply later in the day. I really like to have day fragrances and evening ones.
KT: WHAT IS YOUR THE-HOUSE-IS-BURNING-GRAB-ONE-GROOMING-PRODUCT?
DO: Oh ok well I would first grab my cats. So they’re under each arm and then I would probably grab my moisturiser, All in One Day Cream, as I use it every single day. And I imagine I’m getting burnt quite a lot so hopefully it would help…
KT: WHAT ARE YOUR TOP THREE GROOMING BRANDS?
DO: Including mine?
KT: DOESN’T HAVE TO BE. YOU CAN CHOOSE ANYTHING.
DO: Well let’s not be classless about it. Le Labo, Hermes and No7, because of their serum.
KT: YOU’VE ALREADY TOLD US THAT YOU USE SERUMS, WHICH IS EXCELLENT. BUT HOW ELSE DO YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR SKIN? DO YOU EXFOLIATE?
DO: Yeah I do.
KT: DO YOU GET FACIALS?
DO: No, I don’t get facials and I don’t like to wet shave as it takes too much off. I think technology has gone too far. My dad used to wet shave in the morning and, yes he would have to do it again in the evening, but he wouldn’t wake up in the morning to a shaving rash, because it never got that close.
KT: MY BOYFRIEND STOPPED SHAVING FOR THAT VERY REASON, AS HE KEPT GETTING THESE BIG SPOTS ON HIS NECK.
DO: It’s horrible. But he needs to exfoliate, because he’s getting ingrown hairs.
KT: HOW OFTEN DO YOU WORK OUT? WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE FORM OF EXERCISE?
DO: About four times a week. I see my trainer twice a week in the park and I’d say that’s my favourite way to work out.
DO: I’m having a turf war with my niece at the moment on our family’s Whatsapp group. She loves them and I keep changing the group’s name to ‘Josie hates emojis’. She’s getting really pissed off.
KT: I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU DON’T USE ANY.
DO: Occasionally I’ll use the thinking face emoji…
KT: WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE ALCOHOLIC DRINK?
DO: So we spend a lot of time in Italy and they have a beer called Dreher – you can’t get it over here – and it’s really light, not heavy at all.
KT: IS IT LAGER?
DO: Yes, but it comes in a little stubby can that stays cold. I’m not a massive beer drinker, but where we go on holiday, the Italians love it. They don’t drink red wine with pizza, they’ll drink these all night. Carbs and carbs.
KT: WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE BOOK?
DO: Oh god, where do we start?! My favourite book of recent times is a book by a guy called Don Winslow, called the Power of the Dog. It’s unbelievable. One of the best books I’ve ever read. It’s been described as ‘the War of Peace of drug novels’. The author is an expert on drug law enforcement and private investigation, and he’s a lawyer as well. He’s an incredible writer. I picked it up in the airport and loved it. It’s like 600 pages long and it’s a story of two guys, one who gets involved with drug gangs in Mexico, and the other, who’s a cop. They become sworn enemies over 30 years. The dialogue is machine gun fast. It’s a bit like James Ellroy. The second one is by Colson Whitehead, called The Underground Railroad. The real underground railroad was a network of safe routes during the American Civil War, and freed blacks and liberal whites would help slaves get up to the north of America, because if you were caught without your documentation you would be send straight back. He’s extrapolated the story and turned it into an actual railroad and it follows the main character, Cora’s, journey to freedom.
KT: WHAT IS YOUR CHEAT MEAL?
DO: Noodle soup.
KT: I WOULDN’T REALLY CLASS THAT AS A CHEAT MEAL. THAT’S STILL PRETTY LOW CAL…
DO: Oh chicken wings then. I make them myself.
KT: AGAIN, IF YOU’RE MAKING IT YOURSELF, YOU’RE NOT REALLY CHEATING. I WANT AN ANSWER LIKE KFC…
DO: Ohhh ok, Poppies Fish & Chips or Nando’s Wing Roulette.
KT: WHAT’S THAT?
DO: You get a bag of chicken wings and you don’t know how spicy each one is. So you might have one that’s super spicy and then another that’s like Mango & Lime.
KT: THAT’S MUCH BETTER. WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE TV SHOW TO BINGE WATCH?
DO: Handmaid’s Tail and The Bridge. Oh and The Crown, because my wife works on it. Oh I’ve really enjoyed A Very British Scandal.
KT: DON’T TELL ME ANYTHING! I HAVEN’T FINISHED IT!
DO: The final episode just aired. It’s brilliant. Hugh Grant is great.
KT: FAVOURITE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT TO STALK?
DO: Such a good question. I think it might be my friend, Mr Ben Winston. He’s the show runner of The Late Late Show with James Corden. James is a good mate as well, but Ben always puts good stuff up.
Welcome to Beauty Bytes – a new column where I chat to celebrities about all things beauty – like their favourite products and their biggest beauty disasters. And also what their most used emojis are. You know, all the important and essentials things that we need to know about.
We begin our journey with the beautiful Poppy Delevingne – the model and actress who, as the inaugural Jo Malone London Girl, has launched her second collaboration with the brand. We spoke to about spitting glitter, how to look after hair that’s been bleached for years and our mutual obsession with Grey’s Anatomy.
KT: WHAT’S THE WORST BEAUTY TREND YOU’VE ATTEMPTED?
PD: Glitter on the lips. I spent the entire time spitting glitter and getting it stuck in my teeth. Not for me.
KT: IT LOOKS GOOD IN PICTURES, BUT THAT’S IT.
PD: It looked so good on other people, but it wasn’t for me I’m too much of a chatterbox so it ended up everywhere.
KT: WHAT’S THE BEST BEAUTY ADVICE YOU’VE EVER BEEN GIVEN?
PD: Less is more.
KT: WHAT’S THE BEST BEAUTY PRODUCT RECOMMENDATION YOU’VE EVER RECEIVED?
PD: My lovely make-artist, Kate Synnot, told me about this new brand called Carasoin. I don’t know how you say it, but it’s all natural ingredients and when it hits your skin it turns into an oil. I love it for when I’m travelling and before bedtime. It’s super nourishing.
KT: I’VE NEVER HEARD OF IT… WHAT IS YOUR ‘THE HOUSE IS BURNING – GRAB THE MOST IMPORTANT THING’ BEAUTY PRODUCT?
KT: HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR SKIN? CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH YOUR MORNING AND EVENING ROUTINES?
Yes, I used to be so lazy with my skin and then I went through a really bad patch of having bad skin, so now I’m really good at taking care of it. In the morning, when I wake up, I use a brand that you’ve probably never heard of, called MBR, which stands for Medical Beauty Research. I use their Enzyme Cleansing Boosting powder which you add water to. I used this when my skin was bad and it cleared it up, so now I use it all the time – I can’t be without it. I discovered it in Germany. So I wash my face with that, then I love Skinceuticals serums – CE Ferulic and Hydrating B5. Then I’ll use a Sisley eye cream and their Floral Spray Mist. I also use Barbara Sturm’s Hyaluruonic Ampoules and her Glow Drops. Then in the evening I like my Chanel make-up remover and a light layer of Carasoin before bed.
KT: BEST MAKE-UP TIP A PROFESSIONAL MAKE-UP ARTIST HAS EVER GIVEN YOU?
When I was a teenager and actually well into my twenties, I used to wear a black eyeliner, black mascara and pink blusher (as I thought that was what you should do), but then Charlotte Tilbury did my makeup on my wedding day and taught me to actually look at my colouring and find shades that really suit me. So for example, a bronze eyeshadow will bring out my navy blue eyes. Knowing your skin colour properly, so that you don’t end up with bright white concealer on under your eyes. So now I use more brown tones on my eyes – so bronze eye shadow and a brown mascara.
KT: HOW OFTEN DO YOU WORK OUT? FAVOURITE WAY TO EXERCISE?
PD: It totally depends on whether I’m working much at that point. If I’m not working at the time, I like to be lazy. Basically as horizontal as I can possibly be, so something like Pilates. Which means I can sleep if I want to. But when I’m in LA and working, the sun is normally out so I’m a bit more energized and I love doing Body by Simone or SoulCycle. I like getting really sweaty, being yelled out and coming out looking like a tomato.
KT: OH MY GOD THAT IS LITERALLY MY HELL.
PD: Yeah, but this is in LA and they really get into it. The instructor will yell ‘Who do you hate the most? Do this for them,’ and it’s like oh my god really? Can’t we just get on with it? I like a real mix.
KT: BEST FOR YOUR BODY TO HAVE A MIX APPARENTLY.
PD: Really? Well, there we go then.
KT: IF YOU’RE STRAPPED FOR TIME – WHAT ARE THE THREE BEAUTY RELATED THINGS YOU DO BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE?
PD: Fragrance is absolutely vital. Leaving the house without fragrance is like leaving the house without your phone.
KT: I COMPLETELY AGREE. MY FRAGRANCES ARE ALL LINED UP BY MY FRONT DOOR, SO IT’S THE LAST THING YOU DO BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
PD: Yes exactly. When you wear a fragrance you love, you feel like you can take on the world. Then I’d do a facial mist – I love MV Organic Skincare Ros Hydrating Mist. Then Paw Paw on the lips, cheekbones and on the eyelid for a dewy look.
KT: HOW DO YOU LOOK AFTER YOUR HAIR?
PD: When I was bleached blonde, I was really lucky time-wise to start working with Wella’s line System Professional and I honestly wouldn’t have been able to have long, bleached blonde hair for three years if it wasn’t for that brand. Most people only last a couple of months. But it’s brilliant and I’ve been using it to this day. I love all of their products and they keep developing new products for coloured and dry hair. They have this new product called Energy in a Bottle and it’s like a dry shampoo, but more of a conditioner. It’s an actual miracle in a bottle. I can’t go anywhere without it.
KT: HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE BEAUTY?
PD: I don’t want to sound like cheese on toast, but beauty really is about the person and not what anyone looks like. It’s all about the soul.
KT: WHAT IS YOUR BEAUTY SECRET?
PD: I used to have a big beauty secret that I always used to get in trouble for saying.
KT: WHAT IS IT?
PD: No I’m not saying that now. I’m going to give you another one. Elizabeth Arden 8-Hour Cream on your eyelashes over night. Then when you apply your mascara in the morning, you get that 60s batty lash effect – all spread out and spidery.
KT: I LOVE THAT.
PD: It’s great right. My grandmother taught me that, she’s 82 and still does it to this day. She actually used to put it all over her face. But I won’t do that, because that would cause me to break out.
KT: MY BOYFRIEND’S SISTER USES IT AS HAND CREAM.
PD: What?! But it’s so thick and so intense.
KT: DO YOU HAVE A SIGNATURE FRAGRANCE? IF NOT, WHAT ARE YOUR GO TOS?
PD: Yes, when I wear it people go crazy and tell me that I should wear it all the time. And then Vintage Gardenia, which is only available in their Regent’s Street store as it’s in their archive collection. It’s heaven.
KT: MY FAVOURITE, WHICH WAS DISCONTINUED, BUT MIGHT BE IN THE ARCHIVE COLLECTION IS VANILLA & ANISE.
PD: I hate it when they discontinue things.
*Shouts at the PR* Don’t you ever discontinue Red Roses or there will be uproar.
PD: Are you going to wear it on your wedding day?
KT: I THINK SO. I’VE KEPT A BOTTLE SAFE, THAT I NEVER USE.
PD: So clever. I love that you love the Jasmine one too.
KT: WHEN YOU’RE ON HOLIDAY, DOES YOUR BEAUTY REGIME CHANGE? WHAT ARE YOU FAVOURITE TRAVEL ESSENTIALS?
PD: I feel like on holiday, I’m all about the no-make-up make-up. Just a little bit of concealer, here and there. Also my great friend Jess Hart has just launched her own brand called Luma Beauty, which are basically great sunshine products. So lots of highlighters, light pearly eye shadow and products that are just really good for the sun. And then nothing beats a little bit of salt water in your hair and freckles on show. Just natural beauty. I love Heliocare SPF50 with a little bit of tint in it. I won’t burn, but I’ll get lots of freckles.
KT: I GET FRECKLES ALL OVER MY NOSE AND SHOULDERS.
PD: Me too. Oh and I also love Charlotte Tilbury’s Bar of Gold. I think they only bring it out at Christmas, which is annoying as it’s literally my favourite summer thing, but I’ll keep it throughout the year as it’s such a good summer product. I’ll put hints of that on my collarbones and my shoulders.
KT: WHAT ARE YOUR THREE MOST USED EMOJIS?
PD: The mushroom.
KT: WHAT?! THE MUSHROOM?
PD: The hand face and the poo.
KT: FAVOURITE ALCOHOLIC DRINK?
PD: Very Dirty Martini, as much olive brine as possible.
KT: UGH I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU DRINK THOSE. YOU CAN’T DRINK MANY THOUGH…
PD: No, you can only have one, otherwise you’d be crossed-eyed. Do know you what? I’ve heard that Chiltern Firehouse has started doing one with a lump of blue cheese in it.
KT: UGH. THAT’S SO GROSS.
PD: I think it sounds amazing. Everyone else wants to vomit. I haven’t tried it yet, but let me tell you next time I’m there I’ll be having it. Actually we’re around the corner from there now. Maybe I’ll go after this.
KT: OH MY ADDISON LEE DRIVER IS CALLING ME. WHAT’S YOUR FAVOURITE BOOK?
KT: YES EVER.
PD: Can I have two?
KT: GO ON THEN.
PD: A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini, who also wrote The Kite Runner. A Thousand Splendid Suns is even better – it makes your heart burst. And Valley of the Dolls by Jacqueline Susann – I’ve read it like five time. Oh, and Little Women by Louise May Alcott. So can I have three?
KT: FINE. YOU CAN HAVE THREE. WHAT’S YOUR CHEAT MEAL?
In-N-Out Burger. I was in LA last week and I had two in two days. I’m meant to only have one cheat day a week, as I’m meant to be gluten-free, but I ended up doing two in a row. I couldn’t not drive past it on the way to the airport, and not stop and get the cheesy fries and pickles.
KT: I’VE NEVER HAD ONE, BUT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT THEM.
PD: They’re the best.
KT: FAVOURITE TV SHOW TO BINGE WATCH?
PD: Last year I started watching Grey’s Anatomy from start to finish. I wish I was a cardiothoracic surgeon. I wish I could start my life over.
KT: I’M DOING THAT RIGHT NOW!
PD: Oh my god where are you at? What series are you?
KT: SEASON NINE, WHEN BAILEY INFECTS THOSE PATIENTS BECAUSE OF THE FAULTY GLOVES.
PD: Oh you are so far back! So McDreamy is dead right?
PD: *Stands up quickly* Oh my god!!!! I’ve just ruined it for you?!?! OH MY GOD!!
KT: No, don’t worry I know he dies.
PD: How do you know?!
KT: BECAUSE IT’S AN OLD SERIES AND WAS EVERYWHERE IN THE PRESS.
PD: Oh my god, thank god you knew that. I almost ruined your life. Like actually ruined your life.
KT: I HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET THOUGH.
PD: Oh my god, you have so much to go. How bad was it with Izzy and the heart patient?!
KT: NO, I DON’T FIND THAT THE SADDEST MOMENT. THE SADDEST MOMENT IS WHEN GEORGE DIES.
PD: I’m doing a new TV show with George and I almost had a heart attack, because I turned up for the read through and there was George O’Malley and then I went up to him and was like ‘Hi George O’Malley.’ and he was like ‘No, my name is TR Knight.’ and I couldn’t speak. But I made it my mission to be his bosom buddy.
PD: Now I love him. I actually watched the last episode of the most recent season last night – the season 14 finale. My husband worked out that last year if you added up all the hours, I spent three whole weeks watching Grey’s Anatomy solidly.
KT: THAT’S BEEN ME THIS WEEKEND. I WATCHED FOUR EPISODES BACK TO BACK LAST NIGHT.
PD: You get to the point watching when you actually believe you’re a doctor, I swear to god because you know all of the lingo. I could definitely save your life. I could seriously cut into you and save your life.
KT: YEAH, LIKE I NOW THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE SEEN BY A DOCTOR QUICKLY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE CHEST PAIN.
PD: What are we doing?! You and I should be doctors. Like literally leave right now, go back to university and become doctors. I’m just thinking of McSteamy now.
KT: OH WHEN HE DIES!
PD: Oh in the plane crash with the sister!
KT: YES. FAVOURITE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT TO STALK? COULD BE SOMEONE SEXY, A FASHION BRAND…
PD: Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio, because I love the environment?! Ha. I’m very disappointed that he doesn’t do any selfies.
KT: WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING YOU BOUGHT WITH YOU FIRST BIG PAY CHEQUE?
PD: A Chanel handbag.
KT: LOVE IT.
PD: It’s all I ever wanted.
PD: Quilted. With a gold chain and navy blue.
KT: NOT BLACK?
PD: No navy – old school. I still cherish it to this day.
KT: OK WE’RE DONE.
PD: Thank you so much. I cannot wait to read your whole paragraph on Grey’s Anatomy.